A reprint from 2008 and 2009 ~ not trick or treating? Works for me.
Why We Don’t Celebrate Halloween
If you’ve been directed here by me because you just don’t get our weirdness, please read the entire post.
This post is for all of those people out there who simply cannot believe we don’t pay $20 for a cheap costume, then let our small children browbeat our neighbors into giving them candy, so they can gorge thems
elves and end up grounded for a week due to their poor behavior.
Our family does not celebrate Halloween. We usually celebrate All Saint’s Day, a Catholic holiday that occurs on November 1.
Why not? Here are a few reasons:
1. We are not pagans. I know it sounds flippant, but Halloween did originate as a Gaelic pagan festival, and that’s why All Saint’s Day is on Nov. 1. The Church, in her wisdom, recognized that the culture was used to having a big celebration around that time of year, and decided to give the new Christians something good to actually celebrate. Originally called Samhain, the name Halloween, I’m sure you’ve heard, has derived from All Hallow’s Eve – the night before All Hallow’s day, aka All Saint’s Day.
2. Sure, you say, but it’s no longer a pagan holiday, but a secular American tradition. Well, it is and it isn’t. No matter how you try to deny it, witches, ghosts, vampires, and being scared all pervade the Halloween celebration. Women’s magazines post elaborate recipes to make candied witch’s brooms and ghost lollipops. Fake vampire teeth and blood are sold by the bagful to give to trick-or-treaters. You can buy chocolates in the shape of dismembered body parts. Superstitions are dragged out and celebrated, with black cats taking the center stage.
Not only is superstition wrong and specifically forbidden by God, the underlying, subtle message is that some of God’s creation is intrinsically bad or unlucky. (Poor cat. Too bad you’re all black – guess God didn’t like you!) Adults can see past this (usually), but children are much more literal.
My oldest son especially has problems discerning reality and fantasy, and it’s difficult for him to understand that ghosts aren’t real, for example, if he sees a show about them on TV. He cannot see or do things that would probably not be a problem for other children.
Each family and each parent must discern for themselves how best to protect their children and form their consciences, and this plays a part in our family’s decision not to celebrate Halloween.
3. The atmosphere that pervades Halloween is not one of “family values”. There is no denying that many feel freed by social constraints on this night, free to be daring, wild, different. In this sense, it is much like Mardi Gras. You can do things on Halloween that you would never do in real life, whether it is participate in Fear Factor type dares at a party or TPing the neighbor’s tree.

4. The costumes are often inappropriate. Young girls dress in bras and pantaloons or strapless gowns to be Disney Princesses. French maids abound, frolicking in the street. Bratz dolls appear on your doorstep, complete with glittery lip gloss to compliment their diapers. The most basic costumes, whether they be fairies or pirates, are ‘sexed’ up for the girls. The boys generally appear as serial killers, rubber weapons dripping in blood, ghosts, zombies, ghouls. Or maybe they dress up like their favorite sports hero, the one who beats his wife or evades taxes. Children imitate and fantasize about being Christina Aguilera, witches, or psychotic individuals. Is this good character training?
5. Halloween is not respectful of the dead. A corporal work of mercy is to bury the dead, and a spiritual work of mercy is to pray for them. Respect for the dead is very, very important in Catholic culture, as the body was once the temple of the Holy Spirit and often contained Christ himself in the form of the Eucharist. Mocking the dead has no place in Christianity, whether it be dancing skeletons, zombies, or fake dismembered body parts hanging from a car trunk. What are we teaching our children – that it’s fun to make fun of corpses?
6. “Trick or Treat” is not a good thing for children to say. Sure, it seems harmless, but underneath, it is blackmail. Give me candy, or I’ll do something you don’t like. I don’t think it is a good idea to tell our kids it’s okay to speak to adults that way, even if it is only one day a year. (Remember, Honor thy Father and Mother? Means every day, all the time. Not 364 days a year with one day off.)
Also, there is the additional problem of slightly older children actually performing tricks, egging mailboxes, tp-ing cars, ringing doorbells and running. Authorities, whether parental or official, often turn a blind eye to such harmless pranks on this night. The fact remains, though, that these are sinful activities and parents are responsible for helping their children avoid sin.
Again, older children
may be able to understand that adults joke and tease, and realize that “trick or treat” is not real. But only after their consciences have been properly formed.
7. The candy. Gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins. Gorging on candy, fighting over MINE MINE MINE, selfishness, and self-entitlement abound on this night. The alternative is worse – parcel out one or two pieces until you run out around Christmastime, for that extra fun time at the dentist next year.
And I totally admit that the gluttony, in this case, is most likely my own! Sometimes, the best policy is to avoid the occasion of sin. At least in my case when it comes to bite size Reeses Peanut Butter Cups.
Also, Mr R is still on a special diet. I would have to keep him home, or severely curtail his loot. It would be one more thing that would make him different from the other kids.
So what do we do?
We don’t live under a rock. The kids know what Halloween is. We give out candy, and the kids love answering the door and seeing their friends. We have some Mr R safe goodies at home too. We might watch the Great Pumpkin or something else. We’ve watched scary movies before. We just don’t make it into a focus of our month or week.
I have no problem with scarecrows, Indian corn, harvest themes, or even jack-o-lanterns (provided they are carved with a cheerful grin to welcome guests and not mutilated with fangs and a 666 on the head). I do have a problem with the evil atmosphere that pervades our culture in October, that is so encompassing and pervasive I can’t even take the children to Burger King playland because they have Freddie Krueger placemats.
Yes, my children are horribly deprived, aren’t they? And perhaps our perspectives will change in the future, especially as the children mature and we can have discussions about things. I’ll probably let them go to a Halloween party at their friend’s house someday, when we can have a discussion about all of the things in this post.
And, by the way, the day after Halloween is a great time to stock up on clearanced costumes for a Christmas Dress Up present! Pumpkins prices are often slashed after Halloween, too, making your Thanksgiving pumpkin pie more economical than ever if you take advantage of the sale.
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We ARE celebrating Halloween this year (last year we didn’t0, but some of the points you make here are why I choose to have my kids stay home for a little “party” I can tailor to my liking, rather than have them go out.
Thanks for making some very good points!
A friend of mine shared this article with me… http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1998/9809fea2.asp I think incorporating some of the ideas are a good compramise to celebrating vs not celebrating… although, you do raise some very good points! We do halloween type crafts. Its usually pumpkins and if they are ghosts we call them souls instead. My kids dress in very benign costumes (this year they are crayons)… I don’t know, maybe its the pressure of society, friends, family, etc but I’d have to be constantly explaining and defending our reasons for other people and I just dont want to deal. So, I’ll compromise and my kids can enjoy the night. We’ll likely put an age cap on who can participate in dressing up etc to avoid the often unruly behavior that comes with halloween and teenagers!
Great points. We did not celebrate Halloween when our children were growing up for many of the same reasons. When they were young we lived in a house on a very busy road that had no sidewalks. For 10 years we NEVER had a trick or treater at our door. It was much easier that way.
We haven’t celebrated Halloween for many years now, although we did when my 3 oldest were very young. I agree with almost every point you made as well. If we are home we do give out candy and I love all the harvest-type decorations but when it comes to death-related things, I’d rather not, thank you. Great post.
Well said! We also do not celebrate Halloween. We do decorate for Fall and Thanksgiving (which is a BIG deal at our house), and we will be having a birthday party for the Wildchild tomorrow night so there will be plenty to keep my brood busy.
The reason I hit on your blog was because my son said that some of the kids in his class could not accept the candy from their party at school. So I was just curious as to why some people didn’t believe in letting their kids have fun with the rest of the class.
You do make some good points. But I think you can still have fun on the day and be a good Christian. I am Catholic as well and think it’s fun. I am a single dad and I have fun going out with my son as did I when I was a child.
I agree that some girls outfits are definitely too risque. I can’t believe some parents let their daughters wear some of the stuff they do. If I had a daughter no way would I ever let them wear stuff like that. It’s like sending them out the door with an invitation for a pedophile.
But one thing that you are definitely wrong on is the statement that Ghosts are not real. There are dead souls that still hang around after death. I always said I would believe it if I experienced it. Well, a couple years back I did have a couple experiences and their is no doubt in my mind now that ghosts are real. And for whatever reason, children are many time more receptive to actually seeing them.
If you want to know my stories of what I experienced, feel free to write me.
Jack
Ghosts- lost souls that hang around – are not real. God, in His wisdom, does allow for spiritual warfare; the devil can appear as many things. God also allows, rarely, souls to visit the Church militant (us). But Church teaching is clear: souls, after being separated from the body, go on to judgement. There are no “lost souls” or, as popular media often portrays it, souls who can’t/won’t accept death and so hang around.
It’s not that I don’t believe in letting my kids have fun with the rest of the kids. It’s a choice we made, for our family, for spiritual and bodily health. Other families make different choices.
Just as an aside, I do know some sects have a more vehement stance against Halloween and it is possible those children belong to those denominations. Also, as I mentioned, my oldest son cannot have artificial colors and several preservatives, and when he was in public school he was not allowed to have candy from other children because of health issues.
@jack
Please understand I’m not discounting that you may have encountered spirits of some sort, I’m just disagreeing that they were actually people who had died but whose souls were still hanging around. That’s what I meant by “not real” – they’re not really the people who have died, but the Devil creating imposters in order to affect your faith.
Any souls still “hanging” around are not of God. This is my understanding of Catholic/Christian teachings as well. We all go onto judgment.
Linking, thanks!
Don’t you think it’s a bit hypocritical to cite all these reasons above for not celebrating Halloween, and then flippantly state that you DO hand out candy at the door anyway? I mean, either you’re for or against Halloween, and it definitely sounds like you’re against. Why would you do this, then?
Many people see loved ones shortly after death and are very comforted by this. My mom saw her best friends mom shortly after she had died and told her friend who was very comforted by it. I would not think this would be the work of Devil trying to affect someones faith. I would say that it quite possibly could be a gift from God in some way. I do agree though that other things that people see and here could be the work of the devil.
Great article! This is exactly why we don’t celebrate Halloween. I really liked your point about the over-sexed and skimpy costumes for girls. What is up with that? Who in their right mind would send there daughter out in a belly dancer costume? thanks for sharing your beliefs w/ others–maybe this article helped convince others of the evils of Halloween!
I don’t think she is hypocritical, I just think it’s a title issue…just change the title to Why We Don’t Make It The Focus, and presto-fixo, the rest of the post falls in line.
Great post, I am totally agreement with you.
Blessings in Christ~
Thanks! This is the first year we have not celebrated Halloween- your reasons hit the nail on the head! I really liked your point about respecting our departed.
Bravo!!!
Very well put. Here’s what my husband says when asked what we were doing for Halloween…
“What are you doing for Halloween?”
“Nothing…what are you doing for Hanukkah?”
“Nothing, I’m not Jewish.”
“And I’m not Pagan!”
Im not christian. I LOVE HALLOWEEN I GET CANDY, SURE SOME OF THE COSTUMES AREN’T RIGHT BUT ITS FUN TO GO AROUND AND LOOK AT THE DECORATIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE PUT UP, NOT TO MENTION THE PARTYS THAT ARE THROWN AT HALLOWEEN TIME. my family celebrates halloween and we enjoy seeing the kids reacations to our house.
Ok, Bob, but why are you yelling about it?
In my opinion it is appropriate for kids to go around “trick or treating” and getting candy from people. I am catholic and I do agree that some costumes just arent right ex: ones that reveal too much skin or ones that are derived from just sick people. I personally go trick or treating at my age (I am not 18), and I plan on going for a while. I don’t get why people try arguing over what god says above. If you have a question over it, then ask a priest. For your third point i agree in some part and disagree with another. You kind of have to understand that not everyone who goes out trick or treating eggs houses or smashes mailboxes. Personally i do not. I don’t know what city you live in, but i live in chicago where sooner or later your kid may see something he shouldnt have at his age. There will be a time or place that no parent can protect their child from the real world and I hope that day doesnt come any time soon for you or your family but it may. With your 6th and 7th point you make those are true to a sense but also have their limits. I agree that trick or treat is a phrase that implies a threat but instead of saying that you can say happy halloween! In terms of gluttony that is why parents teach their kids to share. My parents let me have 2 pieces of candy per day and nothing more. Therefore i am happy and they are happy. My candy lasts me for about a month or two and then runs out. I hope you may now see halloween a little differently than you do before.
Andy
The soul goes to heaven or hell it does not stay here on earth to haunt people. Your ghosts are Satan and his bad angels, not the dead souls. No such thing.
I love the link that Mamaescandon provided (thanks). Milehimama, you have a great post here! I have actually turned it into a writing assignment. Feel free to check it out (edited slightly).
Thank you so much for re-posting this via ARCH!
God bless!
http://homeschoolingnotebook.blogspot.com/2010/10/celebrating-halloween-school-assignment.html
A school assignment! I’d love to see the results. Glad you liked it!
This is such a well-written post! I agree with most of it! I don’t like the term “trick or treat”! I don’t like scary costumes! I don’t like the origins! Thank you so much for sharing this!
I wrote a post about it too…read it if you like… http://bit.ly/d2YEf9
Blessings to you,
Lana @ ilovemy5kids
the human mind can conjure up such fantasies that allow a certain amount of adventure in our restless quest for adventure, to compromise our principles is not in my humble opinion the way for a person to allow thier children who we without a doubt love ,to me this is a matter of values and one should strive to have the best of values.
i am deeply concerned about what we allow our childrens impressionable little minds to be influenced by.
peace and love – o.h.(original hippy)
Happy Halloween. Or shall I say, Happy All Saints Day!
I have no problem at all with Halloween. My kids always did the TorT thing (with “Thank you” added at the end, of course) and they were just adorable dressed as anything from bumblebees to robots. But sometimes it does go overboard. (Believe me, mine all got dire warnings about doing any harm at all to anyone!) Freddy Krueger on BK placemats? Pardon me, but…when did their brains die??? When my daughter was little she was terrified of that guy!
And those princesses–I think Mr. Disney is turning over in his grave. Do you know, when Annette Funicello moved from the Mickey Mouse Club to the movies, she promised her ‘Uncle Walt’ that she’d never show her navel? Now you have costumes for 6-year-olds that make them look like harem girls. Geesh, can’t a kid just be a kid?
We also choose to celebrate. No trick or treating (really does ANYONE need the garbage candy even if they aren’t religious?). We stick to a movie marathon party. We do so without the death/fear/gross themes. We set out a bowl of popcorn or other non-candy packaged treats in the driveway for trick or treaters, but mostly because the constant traffic at the door would be a problem with our dogs. I did have to laugh as my anything but conservative husband complained walking through a store that all the women’s costumes were too revealing. Although our son is still a toddler and we don’t know the gender of the baby on the way, we are in agreement that there IS a dress code for our family and there are NO days off.
Growing up my family enjoyed Halloween the same way my husband and I do. They made a point to talk about the pagan origins, conversion to Christianity, All Saint’s Day and even other cultures celebrations such as Dia de los Muertos. My mother was a master of taking common cultural norms she didn’t agree with, make them fit her values and make the whole thing a teachable moment.
Good points! We don’t choose to celebrate it either. There are a lot more important and God-honoring things to spend our time and money on.
While I agree that the mass marketing is vile, I would also say that mass marketing of Christmas is also vile in its own way. A cheapening of the holiday, to be sure.
That said, would you consider how Mexican Catholics celebrate the Day of the Dead as evil? They have silly skulls and skeletons everywhere. It’s a joyous occasion. Why does something sacred have to be serious? And I totally agree that Halloween can be used as a teching experience, instead of a shutting away.
By the way, Samhain is stll celebrated by Neopagans all over the world. Like me. Some of us even identify as witches. Like me. And no, we’re not evil, not any more evil than anyone else, really. We just have a different path to the Divine. But for us, Samhain is the day we remember our Ancestors.
I don’t think Day of the Dead is evil. It’s about honoring and respecting family and friends who have died – a very Catholic and ancient Jewish tradition. Day of the Dead might have skeletons as a reminder of what happens to our bodies, but it’s not about celebrating serial killers, exploiting grisly murders for titillation, having zombies, or pushing boundaries in the quest for a thrill.
I never said that neopagans celebrating Samhain was evil, but I do think exploiting and being entertained by mass murderers (even fictional ones like Freddie Kreuger) is. Exposing small children to death, dismemberment, and torture in the name of entertainment is, IMO, evil.
Okay. fair enough. I would agree with that statement about the serial killers and such.
Our traditionalist parish has a All Souls/All Saints party on Sunday where the kids dress up (they change after Mass) and play games. Then at Christmas they wear the same costumes and participate in the pagent in which the Saints visit the infant Christ and offer him a gift. It is a great way for all of the parish to learn about some of the more obscure Saints, for the kids to dress up, and everyone who wants to gets to be in the pagent. We will do a tiny trick or treating in the evening in secular getups such as a bee, princesses, a pirate, and Charles Dicken’s ghost of Christmas Yet to Come.
I saw my grandfather two days after he passed. I was so grieved that he had passed. I was devastated. I saw him, at the foot of my bed. He grabbed my toe the way he always did when he passed by if I was sitting in a chair with my feet up. He smiled. He told me it was OK, he was with God for Eternity. I was at peace. I was so glad for that gift from God. Then I woke up from the dream and walked away in peace. There are no souls here on earth of the dead. We know that from God’s word. What a horrible thing to do to people, promise them eternal life for belief in Him and then force them to stay here, in turmoil. It was a dream when it happened to me. And it is either a dream or just a vision of grief when others see it or it’s a trick of satan. It’s not a ghost.
Our pastor had a sermon about how Christians shouldn’t celebrate Halloween one year. I think every family has to make their own decision.
For us, we were a little hesitant about welcoming trick-or-treaters because of the neighborhood that we lived in, but in the end we decided to, as an act of hospitality, and because we are supposed to be lights in a dark world–turning the porch light on became a physical symbol of this. It turned out that all our trick-or-treaters were cute immigrant toddlers.
In recent years, Halloween has been more of a social event, taking our kids around and going up to the door of neighbors that we usually only greet in passing.
While I have different ideas about Halloween, I really appreciate your thoughtful post. The respect for the dead bit has really got me to thinking, so thanks so much for taking the time to repost this.
We do celebrate Halloween but we do ours a bit different. Our local Main Street has “Trick or Treat on Main Street”. All the businesses and the street close and the whole town celebrates together. Our daughters (16 & 14) Girl Scout troop hosts games for the younger kids, the stores pass out candy on the sidewalk, and the town serves hot dogs further on down the street. Some years, there are pony rides or a book reading in front of the library. We have been doing this since we moved here 13 years ago and have a blast every year.
Ironic that you posted this topic this week. Hubby asked me today, as we were getting him ready to head out, “do you think it’s wrong for us to let the boys celebrate Halloween”. We don’t make an issue of it, in fact if we didn’t go to my Uncle and Aunt’s home, we wouldn’t celebrate at all, but I have never really liked the idea much. I figured I was the odd ball so I let it go when he wanted to do it. I told him that I didn’t really like the idea, but I submitted that decision to him as spiritual leader of the home since I couldn’t say it was a horrible one.
He told me he’s thinking that it’s not a good idea for the boys and thinks we shouldn’t do it anymore. I am glad I read your post. It didn’t tell me anything I didn’t know, just kind of gave me a little boost of confidence on the issue.
We don’t do it either. Do my kids feel deprived, not at all! They strongly dislike all the “blood and guts” stuff everywhere and are quite relieved when it’s over! They get to dress up in tasteful costumes anytime they want and my dad always brings them a treat bag everytime he sees them so it’s not like they never get candy. We never handed out candy before, we lived in apartment buildings, or out in the country most of our married lives, then in a small town where were seen as oddballs anyway. This is our first year in a house in a city. We were thinking of handing out candy just to avoid any egging or vandalism but now that hubby’s out of work for a while we don’t have money to buy candy for everyone in the area :p. Just going to have to pray for no broken windows I guess, people can a little rowdy around here :s
Loved reading this; I’m glad I found someone who agrees with our family on this issue.
I’ve never celebrated and never felt deprived. Plus we live “in the country” and have a driveway that is fairly lengthy so no trick or treaters have ever come anyway. And we have dogs….
Seriously? You don’t let your kids go door to door, but you are hypocritical enough to hand out candy to other people’s kids? Give me a break. My family is Christian and there are hundreds of innocent ways to celebrate Halloween. Disrepectful to the dead? Come on! Don’t celebrate Halloween – fine – but get real!
Hey, Anonymous – How about you get real? How is this practice for MHM’s family hurting you? And leave a real name next time.
Great post. I could not agree more.
Well, It seems that all Christian holidays are pagan based. Even Christmas. Funny thing, without the pagans the christian’s would have no holidays.
I am Mexican and I celebrate Day of the Dead, which is actually the 2nd of November. I know many American Catholics who are freaked out by the bread of the dead, skull shaped candies and what not. But it really is a Catholic holiday with a long and noble tradition.
I think it all depends on the perspective. The mummy shaped bread and skull candies are usually brightly decorated with flowers and contrasting swirls and not bloody or gory. The idea is that it is a touchstone, a reminder that this too shall pass away. In Mexico, people have dinner parties in cemetaries complete with buffet tables stocked with their dead relatives’ favorite foods and brands of cigarettes and more than a few bottles of Coke and beer. The party with and for the dead friends and family and sometimes even dress AS their dead friends and family.
We do All Saints and do Halloween, though in our own way. As close to what I had growing up as I can give my kids in the American suburbs.
And I don’t give out candy. I give out crayons, stickers, and Play-Doh. I got a bag of 80 mini packs of Play-Doh at Costco for llike ten bucks. Score!
I get what you are saying, I really do. I don’t disagree at all. We always dress up and head out but this is the first year in 8 years that I’ve purchased costumes and we spent $50 for 3 costumes – that’s they’ll wear all the time for dress up play. I did it more or less because we haven’t replenished dress up clothes in years and I am so aware of how fast they are growing up. I want them to remember the year they got to pick out a superhero costume and I wanted to do it while they are still little enough for it to be fun. We go trick or treating but we really just do it for fun and we don’t encourage any of the dark stuff – ever. I think it boils down to the fact that I’ve not been personally convicted that this activity is wrong for our family. I totally respect why some people don’t participate. I only take offense at those who feel personally convicted and put their personal convictions on everyone – which I know you don’t do.
Um no. When you said that “I’m not pagan”.. You’re implying that everyone that celebrates halloween is pagan. Which.. is wrong. Surely not more than half the world is pagan. I’m an atheist. I don’t believe in god or satan so how would i worship him? I just like to have fun. Stop forcing your beliefs on your kids. Let them celebrate it and if they don’t like it well that’s their choice. I grew up in a church but after years of being uncomfortable with their closedminded rudeness and inability to accept other things, i just couldn’t take it anymore. God doesn’t say in the bible you can’t trick or treat. He never says you can’t have fun or eat candy. Stop being so stuffy and let your kids decide for themselves what they want. You don’t lose believers by letting them chose by themselves, you lose them by cramming your beliefs down their throats. I’m an atheist because of many reasons, one of them being that I hated being forced to believe something. NO one asked me what i believed. Let your kids decide for themselves because if you don’t they’ll end up pushing away from you. I know from experience. Kay thanks. OH and halloween is not evil unless you make it evil.
@Sarah,
That’s quite a leap from saying “I’m not pagan” to “therefore, everyone else is”. And “stop forcing my beliefs on my kids”? Not going to happen, because that’s what parenting IS- it’s handing down cultural and religious beliefs and imposing a moral code (whatever that may be.) Every community has certain beliefs and codes of behavior, and the family is the most fundamental unit of a community. And the authorities in the family are the parents, who teach the children.
You are so right that God doesn’t say “not to have fun”. We are made for joy, created for happiness.
And we love to eat candy around here- maybe too much (see point #7, above.)
Don’t you think it’s a tiny bit ironic that *you* come here insisting that I follow *your* belief that I should *stop forcing my beliefs* on others (and that kids should decide matters of faith and morals for themselves?)
@Milehimama
I’m not forcing you to do anything. I’m just stating that you lose believers if you’re too harsh on them. It’s a fact and if you’re going to ignore it well that’s not really my concern. Lose your kids because you were to pressing. That’s not my fault. I don’t care what religion you follow deary. I’m not saying you have to be an atheist. I’m just trying to say that people will scare friends and even family away from religion if they don’t get a chance to decide for themselves. Family is important and the way you can break it up is being too forceful. Don’t you know anything about psychology? yes they’re impressionable at a young age, i was too. I believed in god really but it just.. i hated not being able to speak my opinions without being judged. So i stopped. Your kids might and i know tons of people that aren’t religious anymore. They moved out and said no more. I apologize if i got hostile with my first post. I’m just a tad upset that I am alone on my favorite holiday and it was wrong of me to lash out. I know your point of view. I used to live that point of view. Now can you at least try to see mine? maybe? i’m not saying you have to believe it but at least try to see it.