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		<title>By: Heather Price</title>
		<link>http://www.milehimama.com/2009/06/04/humor-me-the-case-against-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t help myself. I took a page from my husband&#039;s book and I fisked it.</description>
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		<title>By: Rosy</title>
		<link>http://www.milehimama.com/2009/06/04/humor-me-the-case-against-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How dare you generalize unicorns in such an unflattering way!  I thought it was only ogres who hated homeschool....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How dare you generalize unicorns in such an unflattering way!  I thought it was only ogres who hated homeschool&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lerin</title>
		<link>http://www.milehimama.com/2009/06/04/humor-me-the-case-against-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>Lerin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this article by a so-called &quot;teacher&quot; has just completely reaffirmed our decision to homeschool.

I am still in shock that this man was serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this article by a so-called &#8220;teacher&#8221; has just completely reaffirmed our decision to homeschool.</p>
<p>I am still in shock that this man was serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.milehimama.com/2009/06/04/humor-me-the-case-against-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been ranting a bit myself on this one . . .
The Case Against Public Schooling
http://52churches.garriber.org/?p=1357
The Case Against Local, Safe, Organic Food: A Parody
http://52churches.garriber.org/?p=1372
and
It’s True, I Only Homeschool to Piss Off Other People, Parts I-III
http://52churches.garriber.org
:-)
--Jen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been ranting a bit myself on this one . . .<br />
The Case Against Public Schooling<br />
<a href="http://52churches.garriber.org/?p=1357"  rel="nofollow">http://52churches.garriber.org/?p=1357</a><br />
The Case Against Local, Safe, Organic Food: A Parody<br />
<a href="http://52churches.garriber.org/?p=1372"  rel="nofollow">http://52churches.garriber.org/?p=1372</a><br />
and<br />
It’s True, I Only Homeschool to Piss Off Other People, Parts I-III<br />
<a href="http://52churches.garriber.org"  rel="nofollow">http://52churches.garriber.org</a><br />
 <img src='http://www.milehimama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8211;Jen</p>
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		<title>By: Harper</title>
		<link>http://www.milehimama.com/2009/06/04/humor-me-the-case-against-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I&#039;m still reading here.  I&#039;ve just been lurking rather than commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I&#8217;m still reading here.  I&#8217;ve just been lurking rather than commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://www.milehimama.com/2009/06/04/humor-me-the-case-against-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read the &#039;About&#039; page on the blog. Now I realize the blog serves a specific purpose for teachers, a place to deal with being a teacher. Yet I wanted to speak up on my personal experience, that the best teachers at teaching were not simply the most well-liked, who loved children and wanted to make a difference in their lives. Rather it was the teacher who was passionate about the subject matter. A teacher who was crazy about math,,  who loved to read, or fascinated by science; they wanted to share it knowledge not influence not convey how important they are because they shaped the future. 

No doubt that high-risk students may need social support, and a teacher may be a collaborative force but their priority should be knowledge. My father-in-law, who is now retired, taught Humanities at the local university. People liked him, but the LOVED what he was teaching. My mother-in-law, a public middle school teacher also, dealt with the burn out especially for students with a high percentage with unstable high-risk factors in their home life. You give them all the pep-talk &#039;you just got to believe in yourself&#039; inspiration mantra, but her obligation ultimately was getting these students the basic skills reading/math and appreciate the knowledge, and that is what she focused on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read the &#8216;About&#8217; page on the blog. Now I realize the blog serves a specific purpose for teachers, a place to deal with being a teacher. Yet I wanted to speak up on my personal experience, that the best teachers at teaching were not simply the most well-liked, who loved children and wanted to make a difference in their lives. Rather it was the teacher who was passionate about the subject matter. A teacher who was crazy about math,,  who loved to read, or fascinated by science; they wanted to share it knowledge not influence not convey how important they are because they shaped the future. </p>
<p>No doubt that high-risk students may need social support, and a teacher may be a collaborative force but their priority should be knowledge. My father-in-law, who is now retired, taught Humanities at the local university. People liked him, but the LOVED what he was teaching. My mother-in-law, a public middle school teacher also, dealt with the burn out especially for students with a high percentage with unstable high-risk factors in their home life. You give them all the pep-talk &#8216;you just got to believe in yourself&#8217; inspiration mantra, but her obligation ultimately was getting these students the basic skills reading/math and appreciate the knowledge, and that is what she focused on.</p>
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		<title>By: ginkgo100</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sense a great disturbance in the Force. The disturbance is the existential dissonance created when a man of education—both giving and receiving—with great pomp and seriousness, publishes an ignorant, clownish screed like that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sense a great disturbance in the Force. The disturbance is the existential dissonance created when a man of education—both giving and receiving—with great pomp and seriousness, publishes an ignorant, clownish screed like that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Milehimama</title>
		<link>http://www.milehimama.com/2009/06/04/humor-me-the-case-against-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>Milehimama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harper!  Good to see you!  I didn&#039;t know you still read here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harper!  Good to see you!  I didn&#8217;t know you still read here!</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://www.milehimama.com/2009/06/04/humor-me-the-case-against-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they want parents to work these types of teachers?

My children go to Catholic, never really considered HS, expect actually in high school. I actually use to be against HS because I thought children should socialize with their own peers, but actually that&#039;s the big problem. Children who are HS get more opportunity to be around adults in the adult world. 

Think of one&#039;s typical suburban high school campus, it looks like a prison! Teenagers never get to see adults doing adults things, 60 years ago high schools could be placed in the middle of town/city centers and young adults would look out the window and not see a subdivision or a highway, but rather city hall, businesses, and shops. 

I idea of high school and living on college campus came around with the book from two years ago,

The Case Against Adolescence: Rediscovering the Adult in Every Teen, By Dr. Robert Epstein

from the website.

&quot;“A revolutionary proposal for raising responsible and happy teenagers, this groundbreaking book argues that adolescence is an unnecessary period of life that we’re better off without. Epstein shows that teen turmoil is caused by outmoded systems put in place a century ago which destroyed the continuum between childhood and adulthood. Where this continuum still exists in other countries, there is no adolescence. Isolated from adults, American teens learn everything they know from their media-dominated peers—“the last people on earth they should be learning from,” says Epstein. He shows that our teens are highly capable—in some ways more capable than adults—and argues strongly against “infantilizing” young people. We must rediscover “the adult in every teen,” he says, by giving young people adult authority and responsibility as soon as they can demonstrate readiness. This landmark book will change our thinking about teens for decades to come.”

I guess my only gripe with HS is when I see then on the National Spelling Bee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they want parents to work these types of teachers?</p>
<p>My children go to Catholic, never really considered HS, expect actually in high school. I actually use to be against HS because I thought children should socialize with their own peers, but actually that&#8217;s the big problem. Children who are HS get more opportunity to be around adults in the adult world. </p>
<p>Think of one&#8217;s typical suburban high school campus, it looks like a prison! Teenagers never get to see adults doing adults things, 60 years ago high schools could be placed in the middle of town/city centers and young adults would look out the window and not see a subdivision or a highway, but rather city hall, businesses, and shops. </p>
<p>I idea of high school and living on college campus came around with the book from two years ago,</p>
<p>The Case Against Adolescence: Rediscovering the Adult in Every Teen, By Dr. Robert Epstein</p>
<p>from the website.</p>
<p>&#8220;“A revolutionary proposal for raising responsible and happy teenagers, this groundbreaking book argues that adolescence is an unnecessary period of life that we’re better off without. Epstein shows that teen turmoil is caused by outmoded systems put in place a century ago which destroyed the continuum between childhood and adulthood. Where this continuum still exists in other countries, there is no adolescence. Isolated from adults, American teens learn everything they know from their media-dominated peers—“the last people on earth they should be learning from,” says Epstein. He shows that our teens are highly capable—in some ways more capable than adults—and argues strongly against “infantilizing” young people. We must rediscover “the adult in every teen,” he says, by giving young people adult authority and responsibility as soon as they can demonstrate readiness. This landmark book will change our thinking about teens for decades to come.”</p>
<p>I guess my only gripe with HS is when I see then on the National Spelling Bee.</p>
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		<title>By: Harper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, as an hs grad, I just have to comment on this.  First of all, I have found in my college career that college is an environment far more akin to the &quot;real world&quot; than the ps can ever be, meaning that people really don&#039;t care how you were educated so long as you pull your own weight.  On a related note, in my various years in ps (k, 1, 3, 6, 7), I was consistantly ahead of my peers academically, a trend that has continued through college (I am now a senior, there.  As an example, what passes as college level English was, in my experience, 5th grade English.  Furthermore, hsing allowed me to graduate high school at 16.  

While my parents were upper middle class, part of the decision to pull me from public school was the fact that they could not afford the local private schools.  In my experience, most rich people do the private school thing, and hsing is a much more middle class trend.  I also had plenty of lower income friends, who had chosen a single income lifestyle over the extra income made possible by the public school.

Having lived in a very liberal area as a child, the hs community was far more diverse than the public environment.  While the later was mostly WASP, where I was included people ranging from Wiccan &quot;unschoolers&quot; to couples wanting to provide their children a Christian upbringing and everything inbetween.  They also included far more ethnic diversity than was actually representative of the population.  As I&#039;ve learned since through my husband&#039;s work, districts seem more likely to think they can walk over minority parents than over WASP parents.

Finally, my parents took me out of ps because the lack of academic challenge had thrown me into a serious depression at the age of six.  Show me a happy 6 year old who does not want to color and begs for beatings!  I had actually been put in time out in school for knowing how to read and reading during &quot;free&quot; time.  Since I was ahead of my peers, my mother suggested I be put in a gifted class.  The teacher refused, even though I was reading in first grade at the sixth grade level, but put a boy in that class who was reading at the third grade level.  She explained that boys need special encouragement that girls don&#039;t.  I was also frequently punished for complaining of bullying.

I&#039;m not saying that all public schools are like this, but my husband works as a spec ed advocate (IEPs and such) and has yet to see a school that is significantly different.  Maybe it&#039;s just California.

Mr. Scaccia&#039;s arguments are just further proof that too many teachers have no idea of what goes on under their own noses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, as an hs grad, I just have to comment on this.  First of all, I have found in my college career that college is an environment far more akin to the &#8220;real world&#8221; than the ps can ever be, meaning that people really don&#8217;t care how you were educated so long as you pull your own weight.  On a related note, in my various years in ps (k, 1, 3, 6, 7), I was consistantly ahead of my peers academically, a trend that has continued through college (I am now a senior, there.  As an example, what passes as college level English was, in my experience, 5th grade English.  Furthermore, hsing allowed me to graduate high school at 16.  </p>
<p>While my parents were upper middle class, part of the decision to pull me from public school was the fact that they could not afford the local private schools.  In my experience, most rich people do the private school thing, and hsing is a much more middle class trend.  I also had plenty of lower income friends, who had chosen a single income lifestyle over the extra income made possible by the public school.</p>
<p>Having lived in a very liberal area as a child, the hs community was far more diverse than the public environment.  While the later was mostly WASP, where I was included people ranging from Wiccan &#8220;unschoolers&#8221; to couples wanting to provide their children a Christian upbringing and everything inbetween.  They also included far more ethnic diversity than was actually representative of the population.  As I&#8217;ve learned since through my husband&#8217;s work, districts seem more likely to think they can walk over minority parents than over WASP parents.</p>
<p>Finally, my parents took me out of ps because the lack of academic challenge had thrown me into a serious depression at the age of six.  Show me a happy 6 year old who does not want to color and begs for beatings!  I had actually been put in time out in school for knowing how to read and reading during &#8220;free&#8221; time.  Since I was ahead of my peers, my mother suggested I be put in a gifted class.  The teacher refused, even though I was reading in first grade at the sixth grade level, but put a boy in that class who was reading at the third grade level.  She explained that boys need special encouragement that girls don&#8217;t.  I was also frequently punished for complaining of bullying.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that all public schools are like this, but my husband works as a spec ed advocate (IEPs and such) and has yet to see a school that is significantly different.  Maybe it&#8217;s just California.</p>
<p>Mr. Scaccia&#8217;s arguments are just further proof that too many teachers have no idea of what goes on under their own noses.</p>
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